Back at last!
This episode, we here at bit from you and me about Pagan attitudes towards filial piety and I answer a couple of other listener questions to the best of my ability.
Music by Daughters and Sons http://music.podshow.com/
And Erin McNamee http://www.erinmcnamee.com/
Download the episode here: http://media.libsyn.com/media/thebroomcloset/TBC20080702.mp3
Did I say that I was gone for a month? More like two-and-a-half. Good grief, I can't believe I survived! Looking forward to catching up with everyone.
This episode is just in time for TBC's first anniversary. As of July 4th, The Broom Closet will have been doing its thing for a full twelve months. Wow! Thank you so much to all of you who have been listening to, participating in, and supporting the show. I never could have made it this far without you.
Bright Blessings!
~LitheWolf
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
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Welcome back LitheWolf.
Mojo
This comment is actually directed over to blackrose who wrote a letter to LitheWolf. You know, the one about the very conservative Christian parents?
Anywho, it's time to come out of my own closet - I'm a Christian and I'm listening to this show. It's ok, it happens sometimes.
The reason I bother mentioning this is because I thought I'd share an experience that happened to me. I went off to college and met two wonderful Christian women who became my best friends for 4 years. Close as sisters to me. We did everything together.
Then, one of them started to see what she called demons. At first, I'll be honest, I thought she was crazy. I suggested a few helpful pills for her. Then, after a few experiences, I recanted that belief. We dealt with them together.
After a while, those two came to me and told me that I was working against God. The charge? Being interested in Native American outdoors skills. We're not even talking about Shamanism. They gave me an ultimatum - either drop the skills, recant, or lose their friendship.
We're not friends anymore. Because they were not willing to hear my side of the story.
I don't have a good piece of advice that will change you life. Sorry, I'm not that wise. But I thought I'd let you know that there are others in the same situation. Also, I believe it is possible to be a thinking, logical, loving member of ANY spiritual practice (even Christianity) and accept the supernatural.
So hang in there. You're not alone.
Great show, great thoughts. Stunned that you read my letter.
Sympathies and positive energy to blackrose. That is such a hard situation.
Just finished listen to this latest cast. I thank you for answering my question, your's and mojo and sperrow's answers have given me much to think about. As an FYI I am a girl. I had a friend with the same first name and it made it easier to tell who was being talked to by going by TJ, which are two of my intials. And do not feel bad about the mix up, with a generic name like TJ it happens( I believe Tommyelf did it to a while back when i responded to his show)
TJ Hayes/ Mistic
MDL
Merry Meet, Merry Part, Merry Meet again.
Welcome back LitheWolf!!! I am addicted to your show and spent the last couple months alternately listening to old podcast and shaking uncontrollably. lol I'm so glad you're back and found a place to land in your g-parents attic for a few. Things will turn out fine for you, I'm sure. And HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! I only got my iPod for Christmas, so I found your show half way through your year, but I am looking forward to many MANY more!!
To Blackrose; When things get tough, just remember that you are entitled to your beliefs, just as your family are entitled to theirs. America has freedom of religion... all religion. Even if we don't voice our beliefs as loudly as some other religions, we are still protected to believe what we may. Just hang in there. The folks who are so overbearing about their beliefs actually do it out of love, although from the outsider, it doesn't seem that way. They deeply believe in their religion and believe 'others' will burn in hell if not 'saved.' Their pushiness in trying to save you is actually viewed as a gallant thing in some Christian groups. I don't have any words of wisdom for you that will make it stop. Well, I do, but I'm a blunt old broad with some great one liners, and I'm sure you're looking for something that comes across to your family as a bit more compassionate and loving. :)
Good Luck!
Hi Lithewolf, I know I'm not the most avid commenter but I just wanted to let you know how happy I am to see you back and podcasting! Your latest show is as good as ever. I wish you all the best for your present circumstances and hope to be hearing a lot more from you in the near future now that you and your husband are settled.
Hello LitheWolf, I wanted to let you know that after a long time spent admiring your podcast and being so very tempted to start my own, I bit the bullet and went for it. I talk about your show and how it provoked me to podcast in my first episode so thank you for the inspiration!
Fortuna
http://www.catnipbrew.com/
I've been listening for a while, but this is the first time I'm writing. I am also in the closet. I don't know if I can ever come out of it to my family, especially since my ex-husband is a conservative Catholic and has already asked my sons (6 and 8) to look for "witchcraft books." Let me say that I have great respect for the Catholic tradition. The boys go to a Catholic grade school which is excellent, and I have no plans to change it. However, if my ex or the rest of my family would find out, they probably would not have anything to do with me at the very least. At the worst, I fear losing joint custody of my children. Even if I don't, the struggle would be horrible for the boys. So, for now, I am deep in the broom closet, and am happy to stay there. I am going through a very rough time right now, both financially and emotionally, and as much as I don't like to admit it, I can use their support.
Thank you for a wonderful podcast. I have one of my own, The Tarot Corner. I have just gotten started myself, and I know what it's like to be new.
An award-winning episode as usual, really!
I've missed listening to your shows and I hope you get another one up soon! I totally understand the pressures of real life. . .
I plan on leaving an in-depth reply to the actual content soon, just wanted to drop a "YAY" reply! =)
-Coty
Welcome back LitheWolf, I've only been listening for a few months and I can say that it is a breath of fresh air to my ears.
to Blackrose and Eve, I must offer my sympathies. I have been out to my family for several years and it has been tough to say the least. So tough that I do not even try to come out at work.
In fact, the only reason that some of my family doesn't outright disown me is that my own grandmother came out of the broomcloset at my sister's wedding to defend me against my mother. Needless to say that there isn't much of a family tradion. All I can say is that there are those of us out here that understand and you are in our thoughts.
As for the topic on the podcast, Filial Piety, I am really at a bit of a cross with that...obviously.
I do respect and honor my parents, even though we may disagree, but I can not do the one thing that they want me to do most. That being change my faith. I have taken the road of we just don't talk about it and keep away from that and other touchy subjects (A real trick since not only am I a pagan, but also a political science bachelor and a bit of a tree hugger). So family gatherings with my parents tend to be akward affairs with my mother the state auditor and my father the timber cutter.
Needless to say, I do feel we should honor and respect our past and especially our family and ancestors. It's just not because of some blasted edict from the gods or because some dusty old tome says we should. At the same time, I say that honor and respect does not mean blind obedience. This is the line that any one of faith (be they pagan, christian, Bahai, whatever) must determine for themself where it lay.
Just my two bits.
May the powers that be keep you safe and smiling...if not out right giggling at all the silly people.
Jay
I don't feel so far behind! I myself was out of the loop for far too long.
Enjoyed this episode. - Its been a month - but oh well.
Can't wait for the next episode!
CelticFae.
In addition to my last post.
I had a curious topic of discussion in which I thought you might be interested.
I have recently watched a move called "The Secret."
If you have never heard or seen this movie I highly recommend it. It provides a great deal of incite. Perhaps there could be a podcast show on the discussion of this movie and peoples thoughts on it. I'd gladly take part in that discussion.
Blessed Be,
CelticFae.
I don't think this belongs in comments, but I couldn't find an email for you and wanted to included you in this email.
I hope no one is offended, but I am sending this same message to 6 podcasts.
The message is THANK YOU!
I have been seriously studying Wicca for several years. (I think I have actually been Wiccan since I argued with the nuns in grade school about the existence of Banshees and wee people, but that’s another story.)
When I first realized that there was actually a religion where people believed the same things I did (which I took to be affirmation that I was not really nuts!), I reached out to try to find a coven.
My first experience was with a room full of people who were apparently doing a full dress rehearsal for the newest Harry Potter movie, complete with conversations about ‘muggles.’
My next attempt brought me an aging couple of swingers from the 60s. I grew up in the 60s and recognize a burned out hippie when I see one. They apparently thought ‘Wicca’ would be a good marketing tactic for finding like minded swingers.
After that I gave solitary a whole new meaning. Try hermit. I studied, bought books and decided that a personal, private religion was fine.
Just a few weeks ago (I think the Goddess was giving me a kick in the seat) it occurred to me that since I downloaded NPR broadcasts, MAYBE there was something on the air on Wicca. Sounded like a long shot, but worth a try.
That search took me to the Firefly Chronicles, which I enjoy. Recommendations from that site took me to several that did not appeal to me, but recommendations from those sites brought me to Tommy Elf, At the Edge of the Circle and he brought me to most of the rest of you. Thank you, Tommy.
For the first time I feel some connection with the Pagan community. You have even inspired me to try to make my own contribution and I started a blog, A Pagan Tapestry, http://apagantapestry.blogspot.com/
It is pretty low key, mostly a discussion about the Wheel of the Year, with some other topics thrown in, but it is one more voice saying to the general public, this is about spirituality, not Carnival.
I have included a link to your podcasts and hope to send listeners to you.
Brightest Blessings and thank you again.
Celestite
Excellent show! Nice to hear your voice back on the pod-waves...and you certainly brightened and enlightened my walk with my iPod.
--TommyElf
LitheWolf! I hope everything's okay! I miss The Broom Closet!
-Coty
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